Hi, i am hoping to get some advice,we filled in skilled assessment online and was told that hubby is a couple of points short. He is a qualified electrical/ electronic engineer but was promoted to metallurgist/quality assured specialist 9yrs ago within same company he is 31 we were told to find sponser for 6mths or invest $100,000 any advise please

Hi Debbie,
Finally got it wright.

I was in a similar situation to you hubby.
If he has a recognised qualification he can apply to the Institution of Engineers Australia.

It all depends what he applies for.
If he can register as a Chartered engineer in the UK, he can apply as an Engineer - Materials Engineer 2127-15 60 points. If he qualifies as an Incorporated engineer in the UK then he can be an Engineer - Mechanical Engineering Technologist 2128-13 60 points.

The application route is simple if he has a recognised education by the institutions in the UK (Professional IMechE, IIE or IEE etc.)

Look up the IEA web site at: www.ieaust.org.au/

He should apply under the Washington or Sydney accords if his education is from an approved place / level & age. You will understand what they are if you follow the above link.

I went through the same when I needed my skill assessment. The IEA web site is very good.
How old is hubby, is that the reason for the shortage of points?

Hope it goes well.

Mark.

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Originally posted by debbie rollins:
Hi, i am hoping to get some advice,we filled in skilled assessment online and was told that hubby is a couple of points short. He is a qualified electrical/ electronic engineer but was promoted to metallurgist/quality assured specialist 9yrs ago within same company he is 31 we were told to find sponser for 6mths or invest $100,000 any advise please

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Hi Mark,thanks for your advice my hubby is 31yrs old but i think the reason for lower points is because he has,nt done a degree,we were told he could do his degree in australia for two years which is confusing would that mean going on a student visa and if so how would that affect us going together?His qualifications include city &guilds btecs nvq,s debbie

Hi Debbie,
did you look at the IEA web site?


I myself don't have a Degree, but a HNC and qualify as a Mechanical Engineering Technologist.

If you look up the IIE in the UK they have a very good flow chart showing the levels of qualification vrs the level they offer.
Follow the link below:

http://www.iie.org.uk/rtf/MAR.ppt

If you have more problems drop me a line at mark@mhowitt.freeserve.co.uk

Regards
Mark

Thanka again Mark we will go to the website now,my hubby has a HNC in engineering/metallurgy&materials,so thats good news i hope i will let you know Debbie

Debbie,
I hope it helped. I went through the same thing a couple of years ago when I couldn’t work out how to emigrate. I have a HNC in Mechanical & Production Engineering & it seamed that only those with degrees were suitable.

The IEA have an agreement with the engineering council in the UK that if you can be an incorporated engineer here, they will award you an Engineering Technologist there.

The procedure is easy, only one form to fill in the Sydney accord one, and provide a CV and certified copies of your qualifications (hubbies)

The IIE show the academic route to incorporation in their web site, (in last message)and if you meet their criteria, you should be successful.

I’m still awaiting for a formal interview with the IIE from February to become an incorporated Engineer. I herd back from the IEA ages ago.

Drop me a line back and tell me how you get on.

Regards
Mark

Hi Mark, thanks for your advise, i have been trying to access the info from website but with no luck, we only have cable tv internet access, which is useless, we will have to wait until hubby can get on dad's pc.But did you apply yourself for assessment if so how much did it cost or if you are using an agent how much did he charge see ya later Debbie

hi mark sorry to be a pain but do you know whether it is easier to go with agent to hav qualifications assessed thanks debbie

Hi Debbie,
You will need a PC to access some of the stuff on the web sites, the IEA & IIE. Some of the documents are in word, PDF and some in power point.

The application process to the IEA is dead simple, one sheet if you follow the Sydney Accord route, half of it is your credit card details, which costs AUD$250, the remainder is your personal details. With the form you include a brief CV and certified copies of your qualifications and the subject list that made them. In your case this will be the HNC certificate and the second sheet that shows the modules studied.

The acceptance criteria for the Sydney Accord is based upon whether you can become a Chartered Engineer / Incorporated Engineer or Engineering Technician according to the Engineering Council in the UK. The IEA has a Reciprocal agreement that if you can register in the UK they will acknowledge you there. (It also covers other countries.)

The criteria to meet are therefore on the UK institutions web sites, and the Institution of Incorporated Engineers (IIE) shows this clearly in the link that I gave you. This is a power point document that goes through all the qualifications and what they will give you. (Depending upon experience as well, that’s why the IEA asks for a CV from you)

For you, the important bit is that if it was an accredited course then you are ok. If not, and it is either electrical, electronic or mechanical engineering then it depends upon its date of commencement and how many and what type of modules it was made from.

If you have HNC /D awarded after 1987 but commencing before Sept 99 then it must contain 8 level H modules including Maths and a project & depending upon experience this will give you Incorporated status.

If the course commenced from Sept 1999 then it must contain 8 level H modules including Maths and a project & depending upon experience this will give you Engineering Technician. You would have to go through a matching section and submit it before the ICP to get Incorporated status.

The reason for incorporated status is that it will give you 60 points for immigration, engineering technician gives you 40 points and you loose out on the points for experience in a 60-point occupation.
Your husband’s points should be the same as mine and total 115 (Profession 60, age 25, English 20, occupation experience 10. I’m 31 as well.)

Sorry if I waffled on but it’s been on my mind for so long!

On the question of agent’s once you have read all the forms and booklets that they provide on the Australian government web site, then it seams simple enough. The biggest hurdle is getting your skills recognised, before you do anything else and t his is straight forward with the IEA.

Mine has been held up because the wife wasn’t in the county for 50 day’s and had all her documents with her. We don’t have an official translated copy of her birth certificate. (But that is being addressed by her mom.)
I’m getting all our other documents copied and certified on Wednesday, after filling in the application for migration yesterday.

The cost of the emigration to Australia is a further AUD$1,748 which you can pay by credit card when you submit it all to Australia.

If you need help with the forms & booklets, drop me an email and I will post you them.
You will need form 47sk General skilled Migration to Australia, 47a If you have any dependants over 18 and 999I which gives you the cost of the application. You will also need 1119 Booklet 6 which is for general skilled migration and discusses the whole process.
I also have the form for the IEA as well and the chart from the IIE.

Regards
Mark

Thanks again Mark your a star hubby doesn't think there will be a problem with any of the above i will keep you updated thanks again debbie&alan